Wizzair ввел проверку нужна виза или нет, и для EU Family Member тепепь даёт не правильный ответ :(
https://www.wizzair.com/en-gb/information-and-services/travel-information/travel-documents - > traveldoc
#MEU2
#MEU3

https://www.wizzair.com/en-gb/information-and-services/travel-information/travel-documents - > traveldoc
#MEU2
#MEU3

2025-02-10 12:02:29
кстати да. смутили меня, как интересно им попенять на это?
2025-02-10 12:07:53
Это Timatic тупит, а они от туда подтягивают :(
2025-02-10 12:09:47
собаки бешеные. наверно нужно обращение составить и в Timatic написать?
2025-02-10 12:10:26
e-mail они принимают только от своих агентов - нужно зарегистрироваться :(
дозвонился им все пофигу - обращайтесь в посольство за визой :)
Слишком мало жалоб - никого этих пару тысяч человек не волнуют...
https://www.iata.org/en/about/offices/europe/237/
регула:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:C_202301392
дозвонился им все пофигу - обращайтесь в посольство за визой :)
Слишком мало жалоб - никого этих пару тысяч человек не волнуют...
https://www.iata.org/en/about/offices/europe/237/
регула:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:C_202301392
2025-02-12 06:38:07
хочешь сказать на рейс не посадят теперь?
2025-02-10 12:31:21
Раньше у Wizzair была правильная ссылка на https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm теперь на https://wizzair.traveldoc.aero/ где не правильно.
Сложнее будет ругаться.
Сложнее будет ругаться.
2025-02-10 12:33:15
Там ниже остались и старые ссылки.
2025-02-10 12:35:22
Да, но туда еще надо заставить посмотреть и правильно заполнить :(
2025-02-10 12:37:38
На какой странице этого документа есть это обновление что можно? Я не могу найти
2025-02-16 10:46:35
3.2 Visa exemption for non-EU family members
Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC provides that possession of a valid residence card referred to in Article 10 of
Directive 2004/38/EC exempts non-EU family members from the visa requirement (123).
a) Residence cards that have a visa-exempting effect under Directive 2004/38/EC
The following residence cards have a visa-exempting effect under Directive 2004/38/EC:
— The ‘Article 10’ residence cards issued to family members of those EU citizens who have moved to a Member
State other than that of their nationality.
— The permanent residence cards issued under Article 20 of Directive 2004/38/EC (replacing the five-year
residence card issued under Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC).
Possession of a residence card issued under Article 10 and Article 20 of Directive 2004/38/EC (124) constitutes
sufficient proof that the holder of that card is a family member of an EU citizen (125). The residence card has visa exempting effect in every Member State, including in the EU citizen’s Member State of nationality (126) and regardless of the participation of the issuing or visited Member State in the Schengen area without controls at
internal borders (the Schengen area) (127).
The visa exemption enshrined by Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC covers family members who are in
possession of a residence card or permanent residence card – both when such a card has been issued to them by a
Member State that is not part of the Schengen area and when it has been issued by a Member State that is part of
that area (128).
Residence cards relevant under Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC exempt their holders from the visa
requirement independently of whether or not the holder of the card accompanies or joins the EU citizen. Indeed,
in contrast to what is specified in other articles of Directive 2004/38/EC (e.g. Articles 6 or 7), there is no
requirement under Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC to accompany or join the mobile EU citizen.
Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC provides that possession of a valid residence card referred to in Article 10 of
Directive 2004/38/EC exempts non-EU family members from the visa requirement (123).
a) Residence cards that have a visa-exempting effect under Directive 2004/38/EC
The following residence cards have a visa-exempting effect under Directive 2004/38/EC:
— The ‘Article 10’ residence cards issued to family members of those EU citizens who have moved to a Member
State other than that of their nationality.
— The permanent residence cards issued under Article 20 of Directive 2004/38/EC (replacing the five-year
residence card issued under Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC).
Possession of a residence card issued under Article 10 and Article 20 of Directive 2004/38/EC (124) constitutes
sufficient proof that the holder of that card is a family member of an EU citizen (125). The residence card has visa exempting effect in every Member State, including in the EU citizen’s Member State of nationality (126) and regardless of the participation of the issuing or visited Member State in the Schengen area without controls at
internal borders (the Schengen area) (127).
The visa exemption enshrined by Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC covers family members who are in
possession of a residence card or permanent residence card – both when such a card has been issued to them by a
Member State that is not part of the Schengen area and when it has been issued by a Member State that is part of
that area (128).
Residence cards relevant under Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC exempt their holders from the visa
requirement independently of whether or not the holder of the card accompanies or joins the EU citizen. Indeed,
in contrast to what is specified in other articles of Directive 2004/38/EC (e.g. Articles 6 or 7), there is no
requirement under Article 5(2) of Directive 2004/38/EC to accompany or join the mobile EU citizen.
2025-02-16 10:57:19
Так и получается, только у визэира теперь обновилась с системе и они не пропускают? А остальные авиакомпании должны пустить?
2025-02-16 10:59:20
А Cyprus airways чем пользуются?
2025-02-16 11:08:15
Thank you for contacting the Europe Direct Contact Centre.
We understand that you would like to know if holders of residence cards issued in accordance with Directive 2004/38 need to be accompanied by their EU family member in order to be able to travel to EU and Schengen countries without a visa.
We can confirm that the non-EU family member does not have to be accompanied by the EU family member. You can find this information here: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm#residence-card-yes
You can also find this information in the Practical Handbook for Border Guards; a recommendation from the Commission, on page 24: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-11/Practical%20handbook%20for%20border%20guards_en.pdf
We hope you find this information useful. Please contact us again if you have other questions about the European Union, its activities or institutions.
@swch_swch
@AnnaTalacheva
We understand that you would like to know if holders of residence cards issued in accordance with Directive 2004/38 need to be accompanied by their EU family member in order to be able to travel to EU and Schengen countries without a visa.
We can confirm that the non-EU family member does not have to be accompanied by the EU family member. You can find this information here: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm#residence-card-yes
You can also find this information in the Practical Handbook for Border Guards; a recommendation from the Commission, on page 24: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-11/Practical%20handbook%20for%20border%20guards_en.pdf
We hope you find this information useful. Please contact us again if you have other questions about the European Union, its activities or institutions.
@swch_swch
@AnnaTalacheva
2025-02-19 16:22:30
а как заставить обновить данные IATA?
2025-02-19 16:22:50
Позвонил, сказали долбить этих ребят - с конкретным примером нарушения прав авиакомпанией.
https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/DMLconsumer_en/DMLconsumer_en?OpenDocument
@swch_swch
@AnnaTalacheva
Нужна конкретная претензия по всем случаем не допуска.

https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/DMLconsumer_en/DMLconsumer_en?OpenDocument
@swch_swch
@AnnaTalacheva
Нужна конкретная претензия по всем случаем не допуска.

2025-02-19 16:56:57
А как мне написать в IATA? У них на сайте есть какая-то форма?
Я так понимаю пока IATA не обновит данные (ибо авиакомпании смотрят именно этот документ) сраться с ними на стойке регистрации бессмысленно
2025-02-19 17:12:40
Писать надо сюда.
https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/DMLconsumer_en/DMLconsumer_en?OpenDocument
Точнее заполнить это:
https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/All/01019CB2E8C3885DC22587790032F136/$file/eu_complaint_form_en.pdf
И отправить сюда:
passengerrights@dca.mcw.gov.cy
Приложив это:
https://t.me/cylaw/323978
Выбирать это:
'Denied boarding’ means a refusal by the airline to carry a passengers on a flight on which they hold a confirmed reservation and where have presented themselves for check-in and at the boarding gate not later than the time advised by the airline, tour operator or travel agent (if no time was indicated, not later than 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time). This does not include situations where the airline or its agent has reasonable grounds to deny passengers boarding, such as reasons of health, safety, and/or security, or in cases of inadequate travel documentation.
https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/DMLconsumer_en/DMLconsumer_en?OpenDocument
Точнее заполнить это:
https://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/dca/dca.nsf/All/01019CB2E8C3885DC22587790032F136/$file/eu_complaint_form_en.pdf
И отправить сюда:
passengerrights@dca.mcw.gov.cy
Приложив это:
https://t.me/cylaw/323978
Выбирать это:
'Denied boarding’ means a refusal by the airline to carry a passengers on a flight on which they hold a confirmed reservation and where have presented themselves for check-in and at the boarding gate not later than the time advised by the airline, tour operator or travel agent (if no time was indicated, not later than 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time). This does not include situations where the airline or its agent has reasonable grounds to deny passengers boarding, such as reasons of health, safety, and/or security, or in cases of inadequate travel documentation.
2025-02-19 17:18:41
А как стать их юзером?
2025-02-20 09:55:14
А похоже тут уже поменяли...
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com
@ilinskiy а как сейчас тут?
https://t.me/cylaw/317342

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com
@ilinskiy а как сейчас тут?
https://t.me/cylaw/317342

2025-02-20 10:09:51
Я там же смотрел, просто на другом устройстве, видимо.
2025-02-20 10:19:34
Тогда это радует, Италия поменялась...
2025-02-20 10:20:00
Правильно ли понимаю, что если я поучаю кипрский паспорт, то жена с паспортом РФ сможет получить MEU2, и этот MEU2 даст ей право на безвиз по ЕС?
2025-02-19 16:27:04
Нет, Кипр не подходит :( Все другие страны ЕС или внж не на Кипре :(
2025-02-19 16:28:04
нет, у супруги будет обычный внж (пока проживание на Кипре)
2025-02-19 16:33:52
здесь должен был быть медиа файл, но наш сервер не резиновый: MessageMediaUnsupported
2025-02-19 23:01:43